-----Original Message----- From: David Healy [mailto:healy_hergest@compuserve.com] Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 8:38 PM To: Sidney Kennedy Subject: cornell and paris Sid The talk i gave thursday with you guys I'm scheduled to give again on Tuesday and Wednesday. I'm also going to give it again in Paris early in the new year and the Parisians asked for a copy of the talk to translate beforehand. Here's a copy, just in case it might be any use to you, David To: "'David Healy'", healy_hergest From: Sidney Kennedy, INTERNET:Sidney_Kennedy@camh.net Date: 12/5/100, 3:08 PM Re: RE: cornell and paris Thanks David, Give me a call at home if you get a chance.Hope things are going well in the big apple. Sid Sidney Kennedy, MD, FRCP(C) Cameron Parker Holcombe Wilson Chair in Depression Studies Professor and Head, Mood & Anxiety Disorders Program University of Toronto tel (416) 979 6933 fax (416) 979 6821 sidney_kennedy@camh.net To: "David Healy (E-mail)", healy_hergest CC: Sidney Kennedy, INTERNET:Sidney_Kennedy@camh.net From: David Goldbloom, INTERNET:David_Goldbloom@camh.net Date: 12/4/100, 3:03 PM Re: Message from Internet Dear David, It is extremely important that you, Sid and I have a chance to speak by telephone as soon as possible. I am not sure which day you return home - or if you have already done so - but I suspect you check your email frequently based on past communication. Please let me a know a time that would be available for you - or a couple of times - and Sid and I will confirm. Thanks. Regards, David David S. Goldbloom, MD, FRCPC Physician-in-Chief Centre for Addiction and Mental Health Professor of Psychiatry University of Toronto 250 College Street Toronto, Ontario Canada M5T 1R8 tel 416.979.6915 fax 416.979.6834 email david_goldbloom@camh.net -----Original Message----- From: David Healy [mailto:healy_hergest@compuserve.com] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:21 PM To: David Goldbloom Subject: Message from Internet David Best day is going to be Monday the 11th David To: "'David Healy'", healy_hergest CC: Sidney Kennedy, INTERNET:Sidney_Kennedy@camh.net From: David Goldbloom, INTERNET:David_Goldbloom@camh.net Date: 12/5/100, 4:37 PM Re: RE: Message from Internet Dear David, It would be better if we could speak directly this week, preferably by the end of Thursday. That would certainly be my first choice, as there is some urgency to our conversation. If that is logistically impossible for you, please let me know; if that is the case, my second choice would be to communicate by email. Thanks David David S. Goldbloom, MD, FRCPC Physician-in-Chief Centre for Addiction and Mental Health Professor of Psychiatry University of Toronto 250 College Street Toronto, Ontario Canada M5T 1R8 tel 416.979.6915 fax 416.979.6834 email david_goldbloom@camh.net ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: David_Goldbloom@camh.net Received: from arf.org (mail.arf.org [209.250.151.130]) by sphmgaaa.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) with ESMTP id TAA22387 for; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:37:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from arfems.CAMH.NET ([172.19.200.6]) by beta.arf.org with ESMTP id <119045>; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:48:28 -0500 Received: by arfems.arf.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:37:20 -0500 Message-ID: <995B47168FDCD211A0A7009027457F84022EF521@arfems.arf.org> From: David Goldbloom To: "'David Healy'" Cc: Sidney Kennedy Subject: RE: Message from Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:48:28 -0500 To: David Goldbloom, INTERNET:David_Goldbloom@camh.net Date: 12/7/100, 11:11 AM Re: RE: Message from Internet David It is a bit impossible to talk today. I begin traveling in a few hours time - not having looked at my email for two days. David To: "David Healy (E-mail)", healy_hergest CC: Rhoda Beecher, INTERNET:Rhoda_Beecher@camh.net CC: Sidney Kennedy, INTERNET:Sidney_Kennedy@camh.net CC: Georgina Veldhorst, INTERNET:Georgina_Veldhorst@camh.net CC: "Wasylenki, Don (E-mail)", INTERNET:donald.wasylenki@utoronto.ca From: David Goldbloom, INTERNET:David_Goldbloom@camh.net Date: 12/7/100, 12:28 PM Re: Message from Internet Dear David, I'm sorry we were not able to talk by telephone as I had suggested and thus I am resorting to email as a second-choice alternative. I do so because it is important that the contents of this letter reach you as quickly as possible ( I will send a signed copy by courier ). It is with regret that I am advising you that the Centre has decided to withdraw its offer of a position as Clinical Director of the Mood and Anxiety Disorders program. I know that you have considered this position carefully and invested your time and energy into exploring this opportunity at a personal, familial, and professional level. The decision we have made to rescind the offer follows extensive discussion and consensus within the Centre and the University. Essentially, we believe that it is not a good fit between you and the role as leader of an academic program in mood and anxiety disorders at the Centre and in relation to the University. This view was solidified by your recent appearance at the Centre in the context of an academic lecture. While you are held in high regard as a scholar of the history of modern psychiatry, we do not feel your approach is compatible with the goals for development of the academic and clinical resource that we have. You had indicated to me last week that you had not yet resigned your current position and, in the light of our decision, that is a good thing. We do not wish to compromise you with regard to your current employment. This is a difficult piece of news to convey but we believe it is better to do so now than after you and your family would have made the significant upheaval of a move to Canada. I am ready to speak with you further in person about this but given the nature of our decision I felt it was extremely important to convey it to you as quickly as possible. Sincerely, David David S. Goldbloom, MD, FRCPC Physician-in-Chief Centre for Addiction and Mental Health Professor of Psychiatry University of Toronto 250 College Street Toronto, Ontario Canada M5T 1R8 tel 416.979.6915 fax 416.979.6834 email david_goldbloom@camh.net ----------------------- Internet Header -------------------------------- Sender: David_Goldbloom@camh.net Received: from arf.org (mail.arf.org [209.250.151.130]) by spdmgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) with ESMTP id PAA17064 for ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:28:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from arfems.CAMH.NET ([172.19.200.6]) by beta.arf.org with ESMTP id <119049>; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:39:26 -0500 Received: by arfems.arf.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:28:01 -0500 Message-ID: <995B47168FDCD211A0A7009027457F84022EF55D@arfems.arf.org> From: David Goldbloom To: "David Healy (E-mail)" Cc: "Wasylenki, Don (E-mail)" , Georgina Veldhorst , Sidney Kennedy , Rhoda Beecher Subject: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2000 15:39:22 -0500 To: Sidney Kennedy, INTERNET:Sidney_Kennedy@camh.net Date: 12/10/100, 4:22 PM Re: Guidelines--Dunitz Sid The new situation is a very difficult one for you. Whatever happens I appreciate all the work you've put in over the last two years to get things as far as they got. What I'd like is, come what may at least you and I can keep an open line of communication. I'm still keen to float the guidelines passed Ruth Dunitz I can't remember if you said you'd post me a set. If you haven't please do. Also on the Tuesday, Jack Fava came along and we left the incomplete response symposium and paper as follows - he and his crew would write a first draft. Richard Tranter, the clinical lecturer here and I would add to it I have some novel ideas and we have some data. Re presentation, Richard would travel to the meeting and deliver the paper. I checked this out with Richard before i got the DG email and he's happy to run with it - if you are David To: Donald Wasylenki, INTERNET:donald.wasylenki@utoronto.ca Date: 12/10/100, 4:41 PM Re: Details Don. Before the email from DG came through, I had sorted out my work permit, while travelling back through Toronto from giving the same lecture in Cornell that you had just heard. Even though it would not seem to make a great deal of sense to proceed with sorting out the rest of the bureaucratic details surrounding any move, it seems to me to make sense for me to forward the work permit to Caren Chu of CPSO. They also need input from the Royal College - which I think is due to come to you (Baily Seto) this week. I can't see what can be lost by continuing the paperwork. In the meantime, its very hard to respond to the email from DG without knowing exactly what the issues are. As the problems were outlined to me by Sid on Thursday afternoon and DG at the meal on Thursday evening, these involved difficulties primarily with the idea that Prozac can lead to suicide and an implication that Lilly knew about the problem. Other issues mentioned included megadose regimes and higher rates of service utilisation now. If these are the issues, then there is something that I have to say about them that you might want to hear. If you want to discuss things further, given the time difference, its probably best if you call me some time during the week - at home - [] in the evening my time, in the afternoon your time. I will not be there on Wednesday however - I'll be in London at the invitation of the Medicine's Control Agency to discuss the warnings on the SSRIs. David To: "'David Healy'", healy_hergest From: "Donald Wasylenki", INTERNET:donald.wasylenki@utoronto.ca Date: 12/11/100, 12:22 PM Re: RE: Details David. If you wish to discuss Dr. Goldbloom's letter, it would be best to do so with him. Unless his position changes, I do not think there is any point in pursuing details related to a move. I am sorry things have not worked out but hopefully it will be for the best. Regards, Don To: "'David Healy'", healy_hergest From: Sidney Kennedy, INTERNET:Sidney_Kennedy@camh.net Date: 12/11/100, 2:41 PM Re: RE: Guidelines--Dunitz David, I don't think it is possible for me to correspond with you about the job issue but I am delighted to continue our links on these 2 projects and hopefully on other matters.I appreciate your comments and deeply regret the turn of events. Sid
- Contents
- The Lecture
- The E-mails
- The Issues
- CAUT
- CAUT again : 3 : 4
- Dr Goldbloom writes to Dr Healy
- Dr Healy replies to Dr Goldbloom
- CBC National - transcript from the CBC program
- Dr Healy's Statement of Claim (24th Sept 2001; MS WORD DOC)
- Press Conference Transcript (24th Sept 2001)
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